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Here at Appian, our values of Intensity and Excellence define who we are. We set high standards and live up to them, ensuring that everything we do is done with care and quality. We approach every challenge with ambition and commitment, holding ourselves and each other accountable to achieve the best results. When you join Appian, you’ll be part of a passionate team dedicated to accomplishing hard things, together. Are you looking to combine your passion for elite technology with a talent for strategic problem-solving and team leadership? Drive mission-critical modernization where impact matters most. Location: Mexico City, MX | Work Model: Hybrid About the Team Appian Customer Success is obsessed with delivering exceptional customer outcomes and high-velocity business impact. Our Public Sector team acts as a trusted strategic partner to government agencies and organizations, bringing their most vital ideas to life. By joining this high-performing team, you will strengthen and evolve your technical consulting skills while accelerating the adoption of our AI-Powered Process Automation platform across critical public infrastructure. The Opportunity As a Senior Technical Consultant, you will step into a pivotal leadership role at the intersection of public sector strategy and modern technical innovation. This is your opportunity to move beyond isolated coding tasks and own the end-to-end delivery of highly visible, complex enterprise systems. You will lead small engineering teams, architect robust integrations, and serve as a trusted technical advisor to client stakeholders—enabling public sector entities to achieve true Enterprise-Grade Orchestration . What You’ll Do Lead Project Delivery: Oversee and drive the entire software development lifecycle ( SDLC ) to define, design, and implement custom automation solutions using the Appian platform. Mentor & Develop Talent: Actively lead, coach, and mentor junior consultants through fast-paced software imp

Here at Appian, our values of Intensity and Excellence define who we are. We set high standards and live up to them, ensuring that everything we do is done with care and quality. We approach every challenge with ambition and commitment, holding ourselves and each other accountable to achieve the best results. When you join Appian, you’ll be part of a passionate team dedicated to accomplishing hard things, together. The Head of Revenue Enablement at Appian is responsible for leading and managing a high-performing GTM enablement organization that supports Field Sales across four global theaters (North America Commercial, US Public Sector, EMEA, APJ), Solution Consulting, Partner Channels, and Onboarding. This role will oversee a team of 7-8 direct reports and manage strategic vendor relationships, notably with Seismic. What You’ll Do: Lead & Scale: Manage, coach, and drive accountability across a global team of 7-8 enablement professionals covering Field Enablement, Solution Consulting, Partner Channels, and Onboarding. Architect Strategy: Develop and execute a cohesive, global enablement roadmap aligned with Appian's revenue objectives, ensuring programs are effectively localized across North America, US Public Sector, EMEA, and APJ. Optimize Tech & Process: Own the strategic vendor relationship, contract negotiation, and platform optimization for Seismic , integrating it deeply into daily sales workflows. Drive Deal Rigor: Accelerate sales productivity and increase deal sizes by institutionalizing the MEDDPICC framework and the Ambition Planning methodology globally. Accelerate Time-to-Productivity: Oversee the modernization of onboarding programs for new sellers and solution consultants to dramatically reduce ramp times. Measure Impact: Establish clear, data-driven enablement KPIs, tracking program adoption, sales velocity, and value engineering utilization to present directly to executive leadership. Required Qualifications: Education: Bachelor’s De

About the Team Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC) is foundational to Security delivering mission outcomes at OpenAI. We’re excited about building creative solutions to ambiguous security requirements and delivering new technologies to mission critical customers. The GRC team provides security and engineering expertise to ensure our customers’ most critical and stringent requirements are met. We are technical in what we build but are operational in how we do our work, and are committed to obtaining, expanding, and maintaining Authorizations to Operate (ATOs) for critical systems while fostering a collaborative and execution-driven culture. About the Role Our technologies support some of the most important and impactful work in the world, including our strategic and high-impact customers in the public sector. As a GRC Program Manager, you’ll play a pivotal role in achieving US government (USG) ATOs and compliance frameworks, including but not limited to FedRAMP and Department of War (DoW),for OpenAI products and support agency-specific ATOs for systems deployed in highly regulated and secure environments. You’ll work closely with engineers, internal stakeholders, and external assessors to design, document, and implement security controls that meet stringent compliance requirements. Your creativity and execution-focused approach will be critical in navigating complex challenges while maintaining the trust of our stakeholders. We’re looking for people who bring: Proven experience in obtaining and maintaining a FedRAMP ATO and agency specific ATOs in highly restricted environments, within government or regulated sectors. A deep understanding of USG security frameworks and policies (e.g., NIST, RMF, FedRAMP). Ability to communicate technical concepts to diverse audiences, including engineers and non-technical stakeholders. Exceptional technical program management skills, with the ability to multitask and deliver large complex programs under pressure. This role is base

Your wellbeing, our mission. Join a company shaping a healthier world. GET TO KNOW US At Wellhub we're revolutionizing workplace wellness. Our platform connects employees worldwide to the best partners for fitness, mindfulness, therapy, nutrition, and sleep—all in one simple subscription. Headquartered in NYC with team members in Europe, North America and South America, we’re on a mission to make every company a wellness company. We believe work should be fulfilling, inspiring, and balanced. Here, you’ll find a team that values wellbeing, collaboration, and different perspectives, where passion and creativity push boundaries to create real impact. Your contributions will help shape a healthier, more balanced world for you and millions of people globally. Join us in redefining the future of wellbeing! THE OPPORTUNITY We are hiring a Legal Manager to our Legal team in São Paulo, Brazil ! The Legal team at Wellhub acts as a strategic partner to enable sustainable business growth while safeguarding the company across global markets. In this role you will serve as a legal strategist for Brazil, driving complex B2B negotiations, managing regulatory and litigation matters, and directly advising leadership. This is an exciting opportunity for an experienced legal expert to take full ownership of high-impact commercial agreements and key legal initiatives within a fast-paced, global technology environment. YOUR IMPACT Act as a strategic legal advisor to business teams in Brazil, leading the drafting, analysis, and negotiation of vendor agreements and B2B client contracts, including Public Sector deals. Address key legal and commercial topics, including intellectual property, commercial terms, and data privacy arising from contracts, client negotiations, and strategic initiatives. Serve as a trusted advisor to senior leadership, proactively anticipating legal risks, implementing preventive measures, and offering strategic solutions to support business expansion.

Who we are About Stripe Stripe is a financial infrastructure platform for businesses. Millions of companies—from the world's largest enterprises to the most ambitious startups—use Stripe to accept payments, grow their revenue, and accelerate new business opportunities. Our mission is to increase the GDP of the internet, and we have a staggering amount of work ahead. That means you have an unprecedented opportunity to put the global economy within everyone's reach while doing the most important work of your career. About the team The Enterprise Product team is responsible for bridging the gap between Stripe's core capabilities and the bespoke needs of the world's largest organizations. We are hiring product managers who will be aligned to specific priority industries (e.g., insurance, healthcare, public sector), with each product manager acting as the "CEO" of their assigned vertical—identifying high-leverage opportunities, building 0-to-1 products to solve industry-specific blockers, and influencing our global product roadmap. You will be a critical partner to GTM leadership (Sales, Partnerships, Marketing) and a navigator across the broader Product organization. We are looking for high-agency builders who thrive in ambiguity and know how to move mountains through both direct execution and cross-functional influence. What you'll do We're hiring a product manager to own Stripe's product strategy and execution across our priority industry verticals, starting with complex, regulated industries like insurance, healthcare, and public sector. We are seeking a highly-entrepreneurial, data-driven product leader who will define where Stripe plays, build 0-to-1 products to unlock new revenue, and influence Stripe's broader Product organization to meet the unique needs of enterprise customers in your vertical. The products you build will directly shape how the world's largest companies use Stripe—and how Stripe grows within one of its most strategic segments. Responsibilities

As a Senior Product Manager for Regulated Industries, you'll drive our compliance, data sovereignty, and new market presence roadmap—one of Datadog's highest-growth focus areas. You'll work cross-functionally with teams across GTM , Support, Corporate Development, and fellow product managers to help accelerate that growth. A key focus of this role is international expansion across strategic markets, alongside supporting our ongoing regulated industries initiatives. At Datadog, we place real value in our office culture—the relationships, collaboration, and creativity it fosters. We operate as a hybrid workplace so our Datadogs can build a work-life balance that fits them. What You'll Do Define the roadmap for delivering Datadog's platform to highly regulated customers, globally Collaborate with product managers to help them succeed in regulated markets Speak fluently to the technical details customers care about—data flows and security architecture—for both engineering and executive audiences Enable GTM by partnering closely with sales and marketing teams Partner with Compliance Engineering and InfoSec teams Work with marketing, sales, and post-sales teams to identify gaps in our regulated offerings Deliver AI capabilities responsibly to highly regulated customers Who You Are You have five or more years of experience in a SaaS/B2B regulated industries role—Product Management, Compliance, Global Public Sector Engineering, or Product Marketing You're passionate about working with customers in regulated markets such as public sector, healthcare, and financial services You're customer-focused with high standards for quality You're energized by growth-stage opportunities You can engage deeply with technical, compliance, security, and executive audiences alike—from platform engineers to CISOs and CTOs You have excellent verbal and written communication skills, with the confidence to present ideas to technical stakeholders and executives alike You enjoy partnering cro

Datadogは、高い成長性、収益性、そして長期的なマーケットリーダーシップを兼ね備えた、世界有数のSaaS企業です。エンジニアによって、エンジニアのために設計された当社のプラットフォームは、企業のデジタルトランスフォーメーション、クラウド移行、そしてフルスタックオブザーバビリティの実現を支援しています。 Datadogのプラットフォームは、企業のテクノロジー基盤全体にわたる可観測性を提供し、DevOpsチームやセキュリティチームがシームレスに連携しながら問題解決を行える環境を実現しています。現在、世界中のあらゆる規模の企業に利用されています。 急速に拡大するDatadogの組織において、業界を代表するリーダーから学びながら、自身のキャリアを大きく成長させる機会があります。 ポジション概要 Datadogでは、日本市場におけるStrategic EnterpriseおよびPublic Sectorビジネスの拡大をリードする、戦略的かつデータドリブンなHead of Enterprise Salesを募集しています。 本ポジションは、日本におけるエンタープライズおよびパブリックセクター戦略を統括し、Datadogの最も重要な大規模顧客に対するパイプライン創出、案件推進、マルチプロダクト導入の拡大を推進します。 また、日本市場でのプレゼンスをさらに強化し、Datadogを戦略的パートナーとして確立することが期待されます。 日本はDatadogにとって極めて重要な成長市場であり、当社はすでに大規模なローカル投資を行っています。 日本国内データセンターの設立、主要オフィスへの投資、200名以上の国内チーム体制などを通じ、日本のお客様に最適化された製品・サービス提供を実現しています。 Datadogでは、オフィスカルチャーによって築かれる人間関係やコラボレーション、そこからもたらされる創造性を大切にしています。私たちは、従業員それぞれに合ったワーク・ライフ・ハーモニーを実現できるよう、ハイブリッド・ワークプレイスとして運営しています。 主な業務内容 日本におけるエンタープライズセールス組織の採用・組織構築・人材育成 Strategic EnterpriseおよびPublic Sectorにおける売上責任を担い、四半期・年間目標の達成をリード 新規顧客獲得、プラットフォーム拡張、マルチプロダクト導入を含むエンタープライズ向け成長戦略の策定と実行 パイプライン創出、フォーキャスト管理、案件レビュー、アカウント戦略など、営業オペレーションの高度化 複雑かつ多層的な意思決定プロセスを伴う大型案件において、リーダーおよび営業チームを支援 セールスサイクル全体（ディスカバリー、エグゼクティブアラインメント、技術検証、クロージング）での最適な関与を推進 勝率向上、案件スピード向上、生産性改善のためのセールスモデルおよび営業戦略の最適化 バリューセリング、エグゼクティブエンゲージメント、影響力の高い営業活動に関するコーチング コラボレーション、アカウンタビリティ、顧客志向を重視したチームカルチャーの構築 Datadogの最重要顧客に対するエグゼクティブスポンサーとしての関係構築 次世代リーダー育成、サクセッションプランニング、キャリア開発の推進 Datadogエコシステムにおけるパートナーおよびアライアンスとの長期的関係構築 応募資格 テクノロジー企業（特にSaaS）におけるエンタープライズ向けB2B営業経験10年以上 複雑なGTM組織において、分散型セールスチームを率いたシニアリーダー経験7年以上 大型案件を含む複雑なセールスプロセスのマネジメント経験 Win Rate、Deal Size、Pipeline Quality、Forecast Accuracyなどの営業指標改善の実績 MEDDICCなどのフレームワークを含むバリューベースセリングの高い理解 社内ステークホルダーおよびCレベル顧客と信頼関係を構築できるエグゼクティブプレゼンス 案件に深く関与しながらチームをコーチングできる、ハンズオンかつ高いEQを持つリーダー 不確実性の高い環境や市場変化の中でも成長を推進できるリーダーシップ カンファレンスやイベントでの登壇経験 グローバルGTM戦略と日本市場の営業スタイルを橋渡しできる能力 グローバル戦略を日本市場向けに具体的な実行計画へ落とし込める能力 Datadogは、さまざまな立場の人々を大切にしています。誰もが初日から上記の資格をすべて満たすわけではないことは理解しています。それでも構いません。テクノロジーに情熱を持ち、スキルを伸ばしたいと思っている方は、ぜひご応募ください。 福利厚生・キャリア機会 競争力の高いグローバル基準の福利厚生 新規

About the Team OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that general-purpose artificial intelligence benefits all of humanity. We believe that achieving our goal requires effective engagement with public policy stakeholders and the broader community impacted by AI. Accordingly, our Global Affairs team builds authentic, collaborative relationships with public officials and the broader AI policymaking community to inform and support our shared work in these domains. We ensure that insights from policymakers inform our work and - in collaboration with our colleagues and external stakeholders - seek to further regulation, industry standards, and safe and beneficial development of AI tools. About the Role As a US Congressional Lead on the Global Affairs team, you will help develop strategies and advance OpenAI’s engagement with the U.S. Congress, including developing and managing relationships with House and Senate lawmakers and staff. You will support OpenAI’s U.S. Global Affairs team in meetings, briefings, hearings and other engagements with Congress. You will also facilitate collaboration with civil society and industry partners relevant to Congressional engagement and in alignment with OpenAI’s mission. OpenAI releases industry-leading research and tools. You will face new challenges as the impact of cutting edge generative AI technologies continues to be explored and as the needs of the organization evolve. Day-to-day work may encompass anything from helping to shape strategic initiatives and policy documents to preparing our leaders for engagements with government officials or representing OpenAI in private and public forums. We are looking for a self-directed and creative individual with Capitol Hill experience, experience managing private sector and civil society relationships, plus an understanding of AI-related legislative and regulatory issues and processes. This role is based in Washington, DC and may require frequent travel to participate in meetings and events with k

Figma is growing our team of passionate creatives and builders on a mission to make design accessible to all. Figma’s platform helps teams bring ideas to life—whether you're brainstorming, creating a prototype, translating designs into code, or iterating with AI. From idea to product, Figma empowers teams to streamline workflows, move faster, and work together in real time from anywhere in the world. If you're excited to shape the future of design and collaboration, join us! Figma’s distribution partnerships team is passionate about unlocking new sources of revenue and hyper-scaling growth through the power of strategic alliances. This includes accelerating go-to-market (GTM) efforts, driving adoption of Figma’s platform, and unlocking new use cases via our suite of AI tools. We are looking to hire an experienced business development and partnerships professional to scale our efforts with agencies, systems integrators, consultancies, and commercial partners (resellers) across the globe. This includes driving revenue growth and supporting customers across North America in both commercial and public sectors (government). This is not a channel sales role - we are focused on new critical initiatives and analyzing how partnerships best serve the long-term needs of Figma’s business. This is an exciting opportunity to join an emerging team at Figma where you will play an active role in shaping our long-term partner strategy. You will build new revenue-focused partner programs from scratch and scale our existing motions to better serve customers as Figma’s platform continues to evolve. This is a full-time role that can be held from our New York City or San Francisco hub - or remotely in the United States. What you’ll do at Figma: Identify, evaluate, and execute new strategic distribution opportunities that require complementary GTM partners, and onboard qualified organizations into Figma’s formal partner program Manage and grow relationships with service and commercial part

Who we are About Stripe Stripe is a financial infrastructure platform for businesses. Millions of companies - from the world’s largest enterprises to the most ambitious startups - use Stripe to accept payments, grow their revenue, and accelerate new business opportunities. Our mission is to increase the GDP of the internet, and we have a staggering amount of work ahead. That means you have an unprecedented opportunity to put the global economy within everyone's reach while doing the most important work of your career. About the team Stripe is building economic infrastructure for the internet. We help organizations of every size move money, manage revenue, and build global financial services. The Public Sector team builds Stripe’s presence in markets where organizations deliver essential services to millions of people. In the UK, public sector organizations collect taxes and tuition, enable transit, distribute funds, support charitable giving, and modernize citizen services. The team helps these organizations improve how they collect, manage, and disburse funds. What you’ll do As the UK Public Sector Lead, you will build and lead Stripe’s public sector go-to-market motion in the UK. You will define how Stripe serves central government, local government, devolved administrations, public bodies, higher education, utilities, transport, charities and not-for-profit organizations, and adjacent regulated organizations. You will combine market knowledge, commercial judgment, and operational leadership to build trusted relationships, win meaningful business, and establish the operating model needed to serve public sector customers. This role reports to the Global Head of Public Sector and will help launch Stripe’s UK public sector motion in 2027. Responsibilities Define Stripe’s UK public sector strategy, including priority segments, customer problems, routes to market, commercial opportunities, and the capabilities needed to succeed Build relation

MongoDB’s Security Product Management team is seeking a Staff Product Manager to own security, compliance, and public sector product strategy within Atlas for Government (A4G). In this role, you will be a key member of the security product management team, helping make data security a market differentiator that enables MongoDB to win in enterprise and regulated industries. You will lead product strategy and execution for capabilities and programs that support federal compliance requirements and broader regulated-industry needs. You will work across Engineering, Compliance, Legal, Security, and Go-to-Market teams to translate complex regulatory and customer requirements into clear product investments, roadmaps, and outcomes. This role is suited for a candidate who can orchestrate multiple interlinked product areas, own cross-team product and architectural trade-offs, and align senior stakeholders around multi-year bets. You will be expected to identify opportunities and dependencies that cut across team boundaries, bring clarity to ambiguous problem spaces, and establish reusable ways of working that help MongoDB deliver secure, compliant platform capabilities for public sector and other regulated markets. You will partner closely with senior engineering and business leaders to evaluate trade-offs, sequence investments, and bring clarity to decisions that balance customer impact, execution risk, and long-term business value. This role can be based out of of our offices or remotely in the United States. The Federal Risk and Authorization Management Program (FedRAMP) is a US government-wide program that provides a standardized approach to security assessment, authorization, and continuous monitoring for cloud products and services. Our FedRAMP program requires that anyone who is accessing customer data or metadata inside the Authorization Boundary be a US Person on US Soil. Responsibilities Security and Compliance Product Strategy Own the public sector compliance roadm

At Vanta, our mission is to help businesses earn and prove trust. We believe that security should be monitored and verified continuously, and we empower companies to practice better security and prove it with ease. Vanta has a kind and talented team, and while some have prior security experience, many have been successful at Vanta without it. Vanta's V4G Partnerships function sits at the intersection of our platform, the government agencies and contractors we serve, and the broad network of systems integrators, resellers, service providers, and auditors within the public sector compliance and risk management ecosystem. You'll help build and grow these partnerships to build pipeline, as well as to ensure that customers have access to high-quality, trusted delivery through Vanta. As Director, Vanta for Government (V4G) Partnerships , you will own Vanta's partner function for the public sector — the strategy, the network, and the programs that let it scale — supporting both our government sales motion (Federal and SLED) and our government vendor business. Reporting directly to the Head of Public Sector, you will define the partner archetypes, tiering, and coverage model required to serve government demand, and own V4G partner-sourced pipeline and ARR that rolls into Vanta's overall partner-sourced target. You'll work in close partnership with the VP of Global Channel & Alliances, who owns that overall target and channel operating model, to ensure the public sector motion is built on — and strengthens — that foundation. This is a high-impact, cross-functional role for someone who has built a public sector partner function from the ground up: designing joint GTM programs, negotiating enterprise partnership agreements, and standing up the mechanisms that let a partner network scale beyond the person running it. You'll have meaningful scope: you'll own the V4G partner function — the strategy, the partner network, the program design, and the team — and decide how Vanta

The Public Sector software engineers (SWEs) create the core product building blocks forward-deployed teams use to develop agentic capabilities that function across multiple domains. SWEs responsibilities include building the systems required to ingest and process federal datasets to support real-time decision-making in contested environments. We develop novel agentic enabling capabilities that includes: Create multi-layered guardrails around agents Optimize data retrieval for agents Orchestrate fleets of asynchronous agents Automatically alerts users to deviations in data Illustrating how an agent reached a decision As a Staff Software Engineer, you will orchestrate the implementation of vertical features and horizontal capabilities to include mentoring other engineers on defining requirements with stakeholders and communication tradeoffs of technical implementations on feature and capabilities until they are accepted by the stakeholders. You will: Orchestrate feature implementation across the Federal engineering team to ensure architectural consistency. Define technical strategy for agentic guardrails, explainability, and fleet orchestration. Ensure system reliability and performance across multiple security classifications and network types. Mentor engineers in the process of defining requirements with stakeholders and gathering acceptance. Communicate high-level technical trade-offs and implementation strategies to senior government stakeholders and Scale C-Suite members. Influence the long-term product strategy and technical roadmap for the Federal business unit. Consult on the architecture of AI-powered solutions for large-scale federal contracts. Ideally you will have: Full Stack Development: Proficiency in front-end, back-end development and infrastructure, including experience with modern web development frameworks, programming languages, and databases Cloud-Native Technologies: Familiarity with cloud platforms (e.g., AWS, Azure, GCP) and experience in

The Public Sector software engineers (SWEs) create the core product building blocks forward-deployed teams use to develop agentic capabilities that function across multiple domains. SWEs responsibilities include building the systems required to ingest and process federal datasets to support real-time decision-making in contested environments. We develop novel agentic enabling capabilities that includes: Create multi-layered guardrails around agents Optimize data retrieval for agents Orchestrate fleets of asynchronous agents Automatically alerts users to deviations in data Illustrating how an agent reached a decision As a Software Engineer, you will own the development of a vertical feature or a horizontal capability to include defining requirements with stakeholders and implementation until it is accepted by the stakeholders. You will: Design and implement scalable backend systems for Federal customers using cloud-native AI infrastructure. Build features for agentic systems including multi-layered guardrails and data retrieval optimization. Develop data pipelines and machine learning infrastructure to make data sources accessible by agents. Collaborate with cross-functional teams to execute backend solutions for secure environments. Participate in customer engagements to understand requirements and deliver technical solutions. Define requirements with stakeholders and implement features until they are accepted. Contribute to the platform roadmap and product strategy for the Federal business. Ideally you will have: Full Stack Development: Proficiency in front-end, back-end development and infrastructure, including experience with modern web development frameworks, programming languages, and databases Cloud-Native Technologies: Familiarity with cloud platforms (e.g., AWS, Azure, GCP) and experience in developing and deploying applications in a cloud-native environment. Understanding of containerization (e.g., Docker) and container orchestration (e.g., Kubernetes

As an Enterprise Sales Engineer, you will provide technical expertise through sales presentations, product demonstrations, and supporting technical evaluations (POVs). Sales Engineers help qualify and close opportunities with customers and partners and have a voice with the product team to help prioritize features based on input from customers, competitors, and partners. At Datadog, we place value in our office culture - the relationships and collaboration it builds and the creativity it brings to the table. We operate as a hybrid workplace to ensure our Datadogs can create a work-life harmony that best fits them. What You’ll Do: Partner with the Sales team to articulate the overall Datadog value proposition, vision and strategy to customers Own technical engagement with customers during the trial phase. Communicate Datadog’s value based on activities and work with customers on any identified issues or concerns to successful conclusion Technically close complex opportunities through advanced competitive knowledge, technical skill, and credibility Deliver product and technical briefings / presentations to potential clients Maintain accurate notes and feedback in CRM regarding customer input both wins and losses Proactively engage and communicate with customers and Datadog business/technical teams regarding product feedback and competitive landscape Who You Are: Passionate about educating customers on observability risks that are meaningful to their business, and able to build and execute an evaluation plan with a customer Someone with strong written and oral communication skills. This role requires an ability to understand and articulate both the business benefits (value proposition) and technical advantages of our offering Experienced in programming/scripting with any of the following: Java, Python, Ruby, Go, Node.JS, PHP, and .NET etc. Someone with a minimum of 3+ years in a Sales Engineering or DevOps Engineering role Able to sit up to 4 hours, traveling to and fr